Talk:Faramir tells them of Denethor’s involvement

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Sorry this one took so long-

Turned out it was trickier than I thought writing after someone else's plot.

Dream, all for you! Hope it's all you expected.

-Iris 17 February 2006 13:04 (GMT)

Try to post...

Oh my God! You made it! Fantastic. And what a surprise! Wow! What can I say! It is far far better than what I had in my head. So many details, conversations, and I loved the accusation Boromir had towards Aragorn, made the whole scene feel very real, and full of dynamic. I loved it, just the way I “dreamed” of! Thank you thank you so much! Now, I hope someone will pick up the first turn: Faramir arrived the Steward’s room just in time to threw himself between father and heir. Thank you so much Iris. Your work just remind me why I could not write: I can not make it real, but you can!

Dream

To Dream-

Of course you can write! Look at The Last Blossom... - that is absolutely beautiful!

Great to hear you liked it. Now how about you take up that first option?

-Iris 17 February 2006 15:50 (GMT)

By the way...

By the way, I like the idea you were hiding here: that Faramir could always go with Aragorn to Arnor. So, when Faramir threw hiself between Denethor and Boromir and was injured beyond repair, he would be brought to Arnor to recover. We want to see him getting better rather than become a sex slave, don't we?

To Iris

Oh dear, I guess you can claim that I owe you one. Darn it! How did I put myself in this situation? I guess, when I thought your offering of writing a chapter for me a kind gift, rather than a "challenge"…. Will see…. If no one else is going to pick up the plot sooner. B/c I think it is a very interesting turn and other might be interested, you know!

Dream

By the way... Faramir for Arnor!

I'm glad you spotted that...

Yes, I also think he'd be better of in Arnor with Aragorn than in Harad with Marek - but what's better still: we can have both!

-Iris 17 February 2006 16:00 (GMT)

Admin-ish question to all

The Path list - is that useful to anyone? Worth doing for all chapters?

You could see it as the chapter's private little chapter overview list - not all chapters, just the chapters that went before this one. And to make a new one, you just take the list of the previous chapter and add the option you followed to the bottom of the list.

-Iris 17 February 2006 16:51 (GMT)

From Minx

Ooh! Loved it. Poor dear Faramir - waking up just where he wanted to be but my what a reception.

-Minx 17 February 2006 18:33 (GMT)

To Minx

Great to hear you liked it. And maybe we can arrange Faramir ends up in Aragorn's bed for good?
At least in one thread...

-Iris 17 February 2006 19:18 (GMT)

About the chapter path

Dear Iris, I noticed it, and I loved it! The chapters chart is getting very complicated, no matter how it had improved impressively. But still, I got lost while tracing the path to find where a current chapter was originally from. So the private path worth the work. Thanks a lot! I hope it's not manually done though.
Dream

The path

Yes, I also found myself tracing back (especially whenever we got a post in a thread that had been dormant for a while), and going through the 'What links here' page was just too many steps.

But it is still a manual system, I'm afraid. I've been thinking about an automatic one, but that would involve labelling the chapters somehow to reflect the hierarchy. Right now, the system does not know we always have one page that links to two pages that both link to two new pages, and so on. It just thinks they’re links, like any other.

So you’d have to label the pages with a code that reflects their position in the hierarchy. The system would have to calculate this code automatically and place it in a new cell in the database. That’s one part of the coding.

The other part is generating the path pages (and the overview page - that could also be done automatically once each chapter has a hierarchy code). You could either do a query (a ‘search’) each time want to display a path page, and search for all the pages that are in a direct line up the hierarchy before the one you’re looking at and spit out that list, or you could generate a path page once, when the source page is created, by adding an extra link to the current page at the end of the path list of the previous page (since the system would now know what the 'previous page' is).

But that’s all a lot of coding... and for one chapter every other week, I don’t know if it’s worth it - especially since the manual process is very simple (copy the page from the previous chapter and stick a link to the new chapter on the end).
I mean, this would be some serious hours of coding vs a manual process of maybe 20 seconds per chapter. That’s a lot of chapters before break-even.

But if there’s a PHP/MySQL ace out there reading this, to whom a simple hack like this is peanuts, please get in touch and we’ll work on this!

-Admin 18 February 2006 09:21 (GMT)